08 April 2014

Joseph Cripps 1883-1952

 

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                                              Subject: Joe Cripps
                                              Photographer: Halma’s Studio, Ashburton, NZ
                                              Found: TradeMe

Today’s photo is a really nice one which has been well looked after, such a shame it ended up under the auctioneer’s gavel! Happily I have already found a descendant who I’m sure will be thrilled to receive it.

At first I wasn’t sure if the surname was Cripps as the P’s didn’t really look like P’s to me, however as there didn’t seem to be a lot of people with the name of ‘Cribbs’ in NZ (only one death & no births or marriages in the NZ BMDs) I went with Cripps.

Joseph Cripps was born in New Zealand on the 28 Mar 1883 to John & Sarah Cripps, he was the sixth of their thirteen children who were born in NZ from 1875 onwards.

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John & Sarah had arrived in NZ from Oxfordshire as assisted immigrants on the maiden voyage of the ship Waimate, arriving 25 Jan 1875 in Canterbury after an 81 day voyage, departing Gravesend on 28 Oct 1874, John was a labourer and they were both aged 23, cost to the NZ Government £29.0s.0d.

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They had been married in Bilton, Warwickshire just two months before they set sail:-

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John was the son of Joshua Gregory Cripps [son of Patience Cripps] and Ann Gibbard, born in Bletchingdon, Oxfordshire & baptised in the St Giles Church there on the 16 Mar 1851. Sarah was the daughter of John and Martha Brain also from Bletchingdon & baptised there on the 29 Feb 1852.

John died in 1898 aged 46 and Sarah was still alive in 1915 when one of her sons died so I presume her death is the one registered in 1921:-

1898/5728 Cripps John 46Y
1921/5116 Cripps Sarah 68Y

After their deaths son John took over the family farm and from what I can gather in the various newspapers on Papers Past some of his brothers also worked with him.

Joseph married Agnes Isabella Lovett in 1909 and so far I’ve been able to identify at least four daughters for them although there may be more children born after the NZ BMD online cutoff date of 1914.

1909/6201 Agnes Isabella Lovett & Joseph Cripps

Joseph & Agnes were farming in the area of Anama in Mayfield, Ashburton. In 1914 Joseph ended up in the Ashburton hospital with a fractured thighbone after being knocked down by a team of horses. He survived and over the next 38 years Joseph & Agnes were living variously in Mayfield or Wanganui, in 1952 Joseph died and Agnes followed him in 1963:-

1952/19186 Cripps Joseph 69Y
1963/32617 Cripps Agnes Isabella 75Y

References: Papers Past; NZBDM Online; ancestry.com.au; FreeBMD; familysearch.org

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As mentioned before I have already found a grand-daughter of Joseph but if you are connected in some way to the CRIPPS family please feel free to either take a copy of the photo from here or contact me for a higher resolution copy. Contact by email is preferable but if you are going to leave a comment please don’t forget to include your email address.

Dawn Scotting
pandora[at]kc.net.nz

04 April 2014

The Cunninghams of West Kilbride, Scotland

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A few days ago I found this framed painting in my local Op-Shop and as usual I couldn’t pass it by, it cost the large sum of $3 so why not? I thought there must be a connection to a Cunningham Family in New Zealand somewhere!

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More on these two photos later, adding them here to make them easier to compare with the original. The best I could do from Google Maps.

West Kilbride is a fairly small village in North Ayrshire on the west coast of Scotland. Chapelton Farm is just below the red ‘B7047’ underneath West Kilbride on the map.

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And so it was there in the first census available for the people living in West Kilbride that I first turned.

The oldest person with the surname of Cunningham (or any derivative thereof) was David aged 40, a farmer living at Chapelton Farm in West Kilbride:-

1841-census A fairly well off farmer I would imagine, with wife Janet & four children, plus four other females, two listed as servants and the other two as agricultural labourers, which was rather unusual for women in those days. As you can see from the photos above of Chapelton Farm, taken from the air, that it is a fairly large establishment these days, more than one house and what looks like a large farming area.

David Cunningham was born on 30 Jan 1800 at Stevenston, a village not too far from West Kilbride and is one of the 'Three Towns' along with Ardrossan and Saltcoats. His parents were David Cuninghame and Elizabeth Fleck who had been married in Stevenston on 3 Jul 1789, they had at least five other children baptised in Stevenston – Jane, William, Robert Baillie, William & James. Both father, David, and his son James were buried at Stevenston in 1922, their burial entries in the parish records state they were both from Mickle Dabs Farm.

On the 21 Dec 1835 David married Janet Duncan in West Kilbride and that is where they lived out the rest of their lives, in the process producing at least seven children, six daughters & one son. Janet was the daughter of John Duncan & Helen Dunn, she had been born in West Kilbride & baptised there on 22 Aug 1815. David & Janet’s children were:-

Helen Dunn 1836; Elizabeth Fleck 1838; Jean/Jane 1839-1881; David 1841-1902; Sarah Dunn 1843; Janet K 1846 & Mary F 1848.

David & Janet & their children were all living on Chapelton Farm in the various census upto & including 1891, on the 28 Feb 1895 David succumbed to ‘old age’ aged 95 years, his son, David, was present at his death.

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In all the census, son David had been listed as unmarried, and just a few years later he passed away in 1902 aged 60. This put me into a quandary as I thought this must be a dead end to this branch of the Cunningham family and I had not found a NZ connection. Either that or son David had married in the one year period between 1901 when he was single and 1902 when he died or there had been another male sibling that I didn’t know about (that could still be the case).

Just to make sure I looked at his siblings again and this time did some more research on his six sisters:-

  1. Helen Dunn married William Robertson in 1862 in West Kilbride and they had two sons, William in 1865 and John in 1867, both of the sons were living with their Cunningham grandparents in the 1871 census, they had been born in Paisley, Renfrewshire. I can find nothing further on Helen, her husband or two sons, perhaps they are the ones who emigrated to NZ, nothing found so far though.
  2. Elizabeth Fleck married William Gemmill from Fenwick, Ayrshire in West Kilbride in 1866 and they had eight children. Living at Greendykes Farm, Gladsmuir in East Lothian in 1901.
  3. Sarah Dunn not married and living with her brother David in 1901 at Seamill Clyde View, West Kilbride.
  4. Janet K, last sighted in the 1871 census aged 25 & living at home with her parents.
  5. Mary F, ditto aged 23.

That leaves Jean/Jane, baptised as Jean but married as Jane, this is where I thought I’d hit the jackpot! Jane had married Andrew Cuninghame who turned out to be the son of Jane’s father’s brother Robert Baillie (so they were first cousins):-

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Married at Chapelton Farm on 30 Dec 1874, Andrew was a bachelor Sea Captain aged 37, living in London, and Jane was a spinster aged 35 living in West Kilbride, one of the witnesses was Jane’s sister Sarah Dunn, their parents were listed as (groom’s) Robert deceased farmer & his wife Mary Smith and (bride’s) David farmer & his wife Janet Duncan.

Andrew Cuninghame had been born in Stevenston on 11 Jun 1837 and this is where the above photo of Mayfield Farm comes in, in 1841 he was living with his parents at Mayfield Farm in Stevenston. By 1851 his parents had moved to Campbeltown in Argyll and Andrew was living with his Uncle William Cunninghame at Eglinton Farm in Kilwinning, not far from Stevenston.

After 1851 Andrew becomes quite elusive as during the period of 1857 to 1870 he sat for and passed his second mate, first mate and master mariner examinations so I expect he was at sea at the time of the various census. After he & Jane were married I found Jane in 1881 living at Bradshaw St, Stevenston with their two sons, Robert W born 1876 and David Duncan born 1880. Soon after that census Jane died aged 41 in 1881. Andrew went on to marry Elizabeth Hannah Shove in Lewisham, London in 1884 and they were still living there in 1901 & 1911, Andrew died in 1924 aged 85 and Elizabeth also died in 1924 aged 86, they had no children together, Elizabeth was a spinster when she married and in 1911 she is listed as having had no children.

Andrew & Jane’s son, David Duncan, joined the Royal Navy, married Ada Decima Richards in 1911 in London, he died in 1917 during WWII, I don’t know if they had any children:-

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So that leaves Andrew & Jane’s other son Robert W, I lost sight of him after the 1891 census, when he & his brother were both living with their step-mother Elizabeth in Portsea, Hampshire, apart from one passenger list where a Robert W Cunningham, a 50 year old unaccompanied engineer, was arriving at Southampton from New York on board the vessel ‘Majestic’ on 13 Jun 1924, about to be staying at the Savoy Hotel in London – which may or may not be him!

So I come to the end of this saga with no jackpot and no NZ connection! Of course it may very well be that one or more of the descendants of the female lines emigrated to NZ or this Cunningham/Cuninghame family may not even be the right one. Maybe one day I’ll find time to do a bit more research on the female lines but for now I think I’m done. In the meantime if anyone thinks they might be connected to the Cunninghams of West Kilbride I would certainly love to hear from you.

References: FreeBMD; ancestry.com.au; familysearch.org; ScotlandsPeople; NZBDM Online

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I can’t quite make up my mind if either of the two current photos of Chapelton Farm & Mayfield Farm are the same building(s) as the one in the painting. The overall design seems to be much the same in all three but the windows aren’t, possibly having been modernised at some stage. There are other differences though. Unfortunately the painting doesn’t have a date on it so I have no idea when it was done, another one of those little mysteries that probably won’t ever be solved! Please do contact me, I would love to pass the painting onto a family member, even a distant one. Contact by email is preferable but if you are going to leave a comment please don’t forget to include your email address.

Dawn Scotting
pandora[at]kc.net.nz

01 April 2014

Mrs William Ellis Clough

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Subject: Aunt Elinor
Date: 1860-1893
Photographer: Daniel Jones, 66a Bold St, Liverpool
Found: eBay

Today’s photo I have to admit has totally beaten me! Apart from dating the photo to about 1870 to 1880, (my best guess as Daneil Jones was in business from at least 1860 to 1893) I can find nothing further on Aunt Elinor. There is no marriage on FreeBMD for an Elinor/Eleanor/Ellen/Ellena to someone named William Ellis Clough, not even a William E Clough.

I did find a William Ellis Clough who was born in 1901, too late to have been married to Elinor. I did look into him though as I thought it might have been a family name carried down the generations but it turned out his mother’s maiden name was Ellis.

Then I found a William Elliot Clough and thought perhaps the letter T had been left off the name Elliot, the last letter does look like an O. This William Elliot Clough had been born in 1829 in Liverpool:-

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I found William & Sarah with son William aged 12 living in Kent St, Liverpool in the 1841 census. Father William was a clerk and born in Lancashire although wife Sarah wasn’t. There was a marriage between William Clough and Sarah Hobson at St Anne’s Church in Liverpool on the 6 Sep 1819, William was listed as an accountant, Sarah a spinster and a witness was John Hobson.

By 1851 father William had died and Sarah had married again to Hugh Flood on the 18 Nov 1845, on this marriage her father is listed as John Hobson. Sarah had been born in Wrexham, Wales, in 1851 she & Hugh are living with son William Clough aged 22 and a book-keeper.

That is the last sighting of William, although his mother & step-father are living in Toxteth Park in 1861 I can find no sign of William. He doesn’t seem to be in any further census in the UK, there is no marriage, no death or burial, no sign of him in the US census or anywhere else I can think of.

I can’t really tell how old Aunt Elinor might be but to me she looks to be at least 40 and perhaps even 50 or older, her clothes are quite matronly to my eyes.

Of course he may very well be one of the many William Clough deaths registered after 1851 and there are at least seven marriages between a William Clough and an Ellen someone which are in the right time frame but without any further clues it’s terribly hard to say if he is any of them.

Let’s hope someone connected to the family finds this one day, in the meantime if anyone has any other suggestions I’d love to hear from you.

References: FreeBMD; ancestry.com.au; familysearch.org

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Dawn Scotting
pandora[at]kc.net.nz

29 March 2014

Unclaimed Photographs

Although I’ve had great success finding descendants & homes for a lot of my old photographs I still have quite a few that haven’t been claimed yet. If you see a name on this list you are interested in just click on it to go to the page it was originally posted on.

ANDERSON, John William, 1862-1942
BANBURY, Mary, 1840-1915 (see Franklin)
BIRD, Mary Ann (see Hyde)
BRIGGS, Gerald Gordon, 1901-1964
BRITTAIN, Geraldine Feodora (nee Hyde)
BROWN, Agnes Paxton, 1895-?
CHRISTY, Emeline Mary, 1868-1945
DRAPER, Elsie *
DUGGLEBY Photograph Album
DYSON, William George Peacock, 1898-1986
DYSON, Ruth (nee Lawton)
EWINS, Walter William John, 1881-?
FISHER, Thomas Richard *
FRANKLIN, Mary, 1840-1915 (nee Banbury)
FRYER, Amy *
FRYER, Arthur *
FRYER, William *
GILMAN, Ada Violet, 1891-?
GOODFELLOW, Mrs M
GOULD, Nita *
HADFIELD, Charles Alfred *
HADFIELD, Claude *
HADFIELD, Cora Lillian *
HADFIELD, Edith Martha Ann *
HADFIELD, Frances Anne *
HADFIELD, Harold Bertram *
HADFIELD, John Harry *
HADFIELD, Ruby *
HADFIELD, Thomas *
HARDIE, Winifred Elizabeth (see Purdey)
HYDE, Geraldine Feodora, 1863-1935 (see Brittain)
HYDE, Mary Ann (nee Bird)
KNIGHT, Agatha (nee Perry), 1882-1927
LAWTON, Ruth (see Dyson)
LEANING, two children of Westport, (possibly Willis & Esther)
LEVERET, Lionel or Lionel Leverett OGIER
LOGAN, Annie Roberta *
MICKMAN/McMAHON, Charles Headlam, 1858-1908
MITTON, Arnold, 1856-1910
MORGAN, Charles Bamford *
NORTON, Henry, 1818-1893 (Mayor of Carmarthen)
PLEACE, Alice, 1869-1876
PURDEY, Winifred Elizabeth (nee Hardie)
PERRY, Agatha (see Knight)
REED, Bertie, Charles, Daisy, Eddie & Frank (children of Charles)
RYAN, Edward Michael, 1878-1969 
SMART, Austin Ernest Albert, 1884-1966
SNOWDEN, headstone for Mary (James, Alfred & Sarah Ann mentioned) 1888
THOMAS, Rex A, of Bridgwater, Somerset
THEOBALD, Frederick Richard, 1859-1903 
THEOBALD, Ilean Alice Louisa
THEOBALD, Sydney James
THEOBALD ?, Claude & Victor
TRIM, Amy Mary, 1870-1959 
WICKHAM, John, 1790-1875
WINFIELD, Amy Louisa, 1875-1953
WINFIELD, James Edward, 1879-?

Plus a few that I haven’t been able to find any information on so far:-

CLOUGH, Elinor (Mrs William Ellis Clough, taken Liverpool, Lancs)
EYLES, Gwen Elaine, bn 1942 (taken in Nelson, NZ)
HEATHERSTONE, Mr (probably from West Bromich, Staffs)
WARD, Henry (sent 1897, taken Piccadilly, London)

28 March 2014

Agatha Juliet PERRY 1882 - 1927

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      Subject: Agatha Perry
      Date: Unknown
      Photographer: J Rayner, Khyber House, Whitby
      Found: eBay

Today’s photo is another one I’ve had since 2009 without finding any information, somewhat the worse for wear I’m afraid. A few days ago I was looking through all my unclaimed photographs and on looking at this one it hit me that her name might not have been Perry-Knight as I had first thought. Perhaps it had been written in the American way of naming married women ie given name then maiden name then married name.

I checked FreeBMD for a marriage between an Agatha PERRY and a KNIGHT and this is the ONLY hit I had:-

Marriages Mar 1904
Knight   Charles Voughton   Gloucester 6a    431
Perry     Agatha Juliet         Gloucester 6a    431

And so I uncovered yet another extremely interesting family, or two, to research, presuming I have the right person, nothing is guaranteed though. I say this mainly because the photograph was taken in Whitby which is not even close to where Agatha was born & grew up for at least the first 10 years of her life.

Strangely it turns out that Agatha is the first cousin of Emma Phyllis Bernand (their mothers were Harvey sisters), the wife of John Graham Weall, a photo of whom I purchased in the same lot this photo was in and which I posted about back in 2009 here. Possibly they were both from the same deceased estate.
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Agatha Juliet Perry was born in 1882 in Gloucestershire where her father was the Vicar of Mickleton, the second child of William Vincent Blencowe Perry and Sarah Catherine Harvey.

Births Jun 1882
Perry   Agatha Juliet   Shipston 6d 671

As far as I can ascertain Agatha had just two siblings, Cecily Catherine Perry 1880-1919 who married Frank Mowbray Luce (ICS) in India, he was in the Indian Civil Service & was a joint magistrate & deputy collector, in 1911 they had been married 8 years with no children. After Cecily died in 1919 Frank married again to Ina Marion Clarke (FRCSI) of Rathdown, Dublin, Ireland, they don’t seem to have had any children so no descendants there.

Agatha’s other sibling was Arthur Clyde Perry (DSO) 1873-1945, a captain in the Army, he married Margaret de Winton who was from a rather illustrious background, her parents being Thomas de Winton & Barbara Peel of Wallsworth Hall in Sandhurst. In 1911 Arthur & Margaret had been married for 7 years without any children so I suspect no descendants there either.

Agatha’s husband, Charles Voughton Knight, was an MD and son of Joseph Knight and Mary Ferrier Holt, born in 1872 in Newcastle under Lyme. When Agatha died in 1927 the probate of her will went to Charles Voughton Knight MD and Geoffrey Charles Voughton Knight, solicitor's articled clerk. In the 1911 census they had been married for 7 years and Agatha is listed as having had two children who were both still living. They were Geoffrey Charles Voughton bn 1906 and John Voughton bn 1910. Charles died in 1947 & the probate of his will went to son John Voughton Knight a gas company executive official & Sir Robert Rollo Gillespie O’Brien a baronet, Sir Robert turned out to be the husband of a daughter of Charles’ sister Annie Adelaide Emma Knight who had married Norman Alfred Coghill.

In 1946 Geoffrey Charles Voughton Knight was living in Ceylon with wife Mary Constance & their two daughters who had been born there, one in 1938 & the other in 1946. I found a passenger list in 1946 of the family arriving at Southampton from Ceylon, the address they were going to live at was ‘Falkland House, Painswick, Gloucester’ which was the home of Geoffrey’s father Charles when he died in 1947. Geoffrey was living at ‘Orchard Cottage, Beenham Hill, Reading’ when he died in 1963. Nothing more is known about wife Mary Constance and their two daughters.

Back to Agatha’s parents – her mother, Sarah Catherine Harvey, was the daughter of the Rev George Gayton Harvey (son of James Harvey & Dorcas Catherine Clyde) and Sarah Frances Sheppard, born 1846 in Hailsham, Sussex where her father was the vicar. Sarah Catherine died in 1899 aged 53 and in 1905 William V B Perry married again to Adelaide Anne Mackenzie N Stephenson, I don’t know if she had been married before, the 1911 census shows that she had no children to this marriage. All I know about William Vincent Blencowe Perry’s parents is that his father was John Perry born in 1802 in Bishops Stortford, Hertfordshire (the son of George & Susan Perry) and his mother was E.C, full & maiden name unknown, he also had a sister named Mary.

References: FreeBMD; ancestry.com.au; familysearch.org

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If anyone knows anything about or is connected to the PERRY/KNIGHT/HARVEY families (or any of them) please do contact me, I would love to pass this photo onto a family member, even a distant one. Contact by email is preferable but if you are going to leave a comment please don’t forget to include your email address.

Dawn Scotting
pandora[at]kc.net.nz

08 March 2014

Edward Michael Ryan 1878 – 1969

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Subject: Edward Michael Ryan
Date: Dec 1908
Photographer: Unknown
Found: Waiheke Island, Auckland, New Zealand

Today’s photo I found a few days ago while on holiday at Waiheke Island, an island in the Hauraki Gulf of Auckland, New Zealand. It’s a photo postcard addressed to Mr McGinity at Maamara Cres, Wellington, NZ postmarked Dec 1908 from Springfield, Mass (which I presumed was Massachusetts USA). Part of the address had been crossed out and it looks like it was redirected from the Wellington post office on 19 Jan.postcard-back

Edward Michael Ryan was born in Stretford, Lancashire, England in 1878, his birth was registered in the 3qtr in the Barton upon Irwell registration district. I found him in the 1881 census almost straight away but wasn’t positive I had the right person until I found this death notice in a NZ newspaper on Papers Past:-

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Brothers Edward Michael & Cunningham Rowan were the sons of Cunningham Rowan Francis & Elizabeth Jane Ryan from Ireland. In 1881 Edward Michael was living at home with his parents in Ashton upon Mersey in Cheshire, in 1886 his brother Cunningham Rowan was born in Ashton upon Mersey. Father Cunningham died in 1888 & although son Cunningham was living at home with his mother in the 1891 census, along with nine other siblings, Edward Michael wasn’t one of them, he was aged 12 and a boarder in the ‘Manchester Warehousemen & Clerks Orphan School’ in Stockport Etchells, Cheshire.

Cunningham Rowan was still at home with his mother & siblings in 1901 but I wasn’t able to find Edward Michael, it seems from this 1926 newspaper article that he may have been away fighting in the Boer War at the time:-

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He must have arrived in New Zealand shortly before 1904 when he first joined the Y.M.C.A, the article fills in more details about his life with the Y.M.C.A and I think it must have been them who sent him to the USA sometime before 1908 where he was living when he sent his photo postcard to Mr McGinity at Christmas 1908. In the USA 1910 census I found him still living there in Springfield, Massachusetts. Although the census doesn’t show it I think he was living in some sort of establishment, maybe studying at a school or university of some sort, everyone on the same census page was listed as single and had no occupation apart from the wife of the head of the house who was listed as a matron of a student’s hall, another person who was a dormitory servant and another person who was the manager of the restaurant.

He was listed as single (on 26 Apr 1910) but by 1911 Edward Michael is back living in Wellington, NZ with his wife Edith & listed as the Boys' Director of the Y.M.C.A, however there is no marriage in New Zealand so I think they were most probably married in the US before returning home, so I have no maiden name for Edith but it could possibly be Parton.

Soon after WWI ended he & his wife & two children, Maybelle Parton born 29 May 1911 and Walter Vernon Villiers born 31 Mar 1916, both in Wellington, left on the ‘SS Tainui’ on the 3 Jul 1919 for London (according to the passenger list they were visiting Ireland), they all returned to NZ on the ‘Beltana’ on the 16 Dec 1919.

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There is much to be found about Edward Michael Ryan and the Y.M.C.A on Papers Past, unfortunately they only go up to 1945 so far. Both Edward Michael & Edith, along with son Walter, are all buried in the Karori Cemetery in Wellington, Edith died in 1928 aged 51, Edward in 1969 aged 91 & Walter in 1995 aged 79. Maybelle was a teacher & she never married, she died in 1998, place of burial is unknown. I don’t know whether Walter ever married, it doesn’t seem like it as in the various electoral rolls I’ve found him in over the years there is no one listed as living at the same address.

I haven’t found Edward Michael Ryan on a passenger list when he first arrived in NZ although his brother Cunningham Rowan was listed on the ‘SS Surrey’ leaving Liverpool for Wellington on the 3 Dec 1906 aged 20, a farm labourer. 8 years later he joined the Canterbury Mounted Rifles (listed as Rowan Ryan) and on the 14 Dec 1914 left for Egypt with the NZ Expeditionary Forces, on the 9 Aug 1916 he was killed in action and is buried in the Kantara War Memorial Cemetery in Egypt.

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The next of kin, Mrs Wrigley, was their sister Mildred Ryan who married William Sugden Wrigley in Derbyshire in 1906. Their other siblings were:-

William Villiers 1870; Ellen Gray 1872; Jackson Porter 1874-1878; Sarah 1876; Anna Frances 1880; Sydney Hamilton 1881; Elizabeth 1882; Jane Hamilton Rowan 1884; Catherine Gray 1887; Matthew Fletcher 1889.

Their mother was Elizabeth Jane Porter 1843-1903 & their father Cunningham Rowan Francis Ryan 1841-1888, he was the son of William Villiers Ryan & Sarah Hamilton Rowan who were also the parents of the following children, all born in Ireland:-

Edward Villiers 1835-1874; Sydney Hamilton 1838-1877; plus at least three more with unknown birth & death dates - John Nashville; Matthew Fletcher & Mildred.

Cunningham Rowan Francis Ryan was the executor to two of his brothers’ wills, Edward Villiers Ryan & Sydney Hamilton Ryan, neither of whom were married at the time of their deaths, nor did they list any children of their own in their wills.

So far all I know about William Villiers Ryan is that he was born about 1811 and was the son of Edward Michael Ryan, a captain in the British Army who is mentioned in this 1924 NZ newspaper article:-

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Wikipedia gives an account of the Battle, this is just a small excerpt:-

In the Battle of Villers-en-Cauchies, fought on 24 April 1794, a small Anglo-Austrian cavalry force routed a vastly more numerous French division during the Flanders Campaign of the French Revolutionary Wars. Villers-en-Cauchies is 15 km south of Valenciennes.

Emperor Francis II awarded 8 British officers involved in this action with a special gold medal since at that time it wasn't possible to award the Military Order of Maria Theresia upon foreigners; later, in 1801, after a change in the order's statutes, these same officers were appointed Knights of the Military Order of Maria Theresia. The recipients were Major William Aylett; Captain Robert Pocklington; Captain Edward Michael Ryan; Lieutenant Thomas Granby Calcraft; Lieutenant William Keir; Lieutenant Charles Burrell Blount; Cornet Edward Gerald Butler and Cornet Robert Thomas Wilson. Of this medal only 9 pieces have been struck: 8 awarded and one preserved at the "M├╝nzkabinett" in Vienna. Besides the mentioned piece preserved in Vienna, two original groups of medal and Maria Theresia's Cross appeared on the collecting market resp. in 1966 (belonged to Cornet E. Butler) and in 1967 (Capt. R. Pocklington), both sold by Spink & Son, London; the second, auctioned by Sotheby's in 1903, later in the Whitaker collection, this dissolved from 1959 onwards.

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So far I haven’t been able to ascertain just who Mr McGinity was although there was a John McGinnity and a John Maginnity living in Wellington during that time. There was also some other postcards in the same shop addressed to a Miss A McGinty of Maarama Crescent, I purchased one of them which was a photo of a young girl sent to Miss McGinty but with no name for the person it was from.

How they all ended up on Waiheke Island, at the other end of the North Island to Wellington, is a complete mystery to me!

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If anyone knows anything about or is connected to the RYAN (or McGinity) family please do contact me, I would love to pass this photo onto a family member, even a distant one. Contact by email is preferable but if you are going to leave a comment please don’t forget to include your email address.

Dawn Scotting
pandora[at]kc.net.nz

References: Papers Past; NZBDM Online; ancestry.com.au; PRONI; Cenotaph Database; Wikipedia; CWGC.

19 February 2014

The Children of Charles REED 1860 – 1954

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        Subject: Children of Charles Reed
        Date: abt 1907
        Photographer: H Mortin, Auckland, NZ
        Found: Warkworth, New Zealand

Today’s photograph is one of five very cute children, on the back is written:-

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I saw this one in the Oct 2013 NZSG magazine from Eric Parker who was looking to pass this photo onto anyone who had a connection to the REED family. A few weeks ago I emailed him to see if anyone had come forward and I received a reply from Eric’s daughter to say he’d sadly passed away the previous week. She found the photo so she very kindly posted it to me in the hopes that we could fulfil Eric’s wish.

So far I haven’t had any luck in proving that Charles Reed was the son of the following REED family who arrived in NZ from England on the ship ‘Aloe’ on the 7 Jun 1863, but as the ‘Aloe’ is mentioned on the back of the photograph it seems likely he is.

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I found a transcription of the passengers on board the Aloe online but there was only one Reed listed, a George but strangely he was listed in two places, once with the single men and again with the single women! Suspecting a typo I searched in Papers Past and found there was a George and an Emma Reed in the list but no children:-

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Strange that George & Emma were listed with the single men and women on the ship if they were married, as there is no marriage listed for them in NZ I presume they were married in England.

 

Although there are no children listed for George & Emma Reed note that four births took place during the voyage. It is strange there are no children listed for them because there does seem to be children listed with other families.

 

This is the only voyage with a passenger list of the Aloe to NZ that I can find in Papers Past.

 

The cutter Aloe, belonging to Mr De Thierry, was lost/sunk at Queen St wharf in a storm on 24 Mar 1871.

 

 

 

 

 

George & Emma first settled in the Waikato where he was employed provisioning the troops in the Maori War, afterward they lived in Tauranga for a few years before they moved to Taupiri where they purchased a 50 acre piece of land in Komakorau. They farmed there for about ten years before making the final move to the Maungatawhiri Valley where they farmed on 395 acres until George died. Their children born during this time were:-

1866/8949    Reed Aloe – Emma & George
1873/13126  Reed Rebecca – Emma & George
1876/15641  Reed Oliver – Emma & George
1893/15264  Reed Henry Edward – Emma & George
1893/15265  Reed Benjamin – Emma & George

One would think that with Henry & Benjamin being born in the same year with consecutive registration numbers that they were twins but in 1893 mother Emma would have been 60 years old so either there is another George & Emma Reed or else they are late birth registrations. Benjamin seems to have been born about 1871 according to his age of 74 when he died in 1945. (I cannot find any sign of another George & Emma Reed in NZ at a later date). George died at Vincent St in Auckland after a long illness on the 20 Mar 1894 aged 61.

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I wasn’t able to find an obituary for George but when Emma passed away on the 15 Oct 1922 in Newton St, Auckland this is what her obituary said:-

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This is where it gets interesting, she left FIVE sons and two daughters but in NZ there are only birth registrations for two daughters and THREE sons, which means they probably had two sons with them when they arrived – that would account for the ‘Charles Reed – born in England’ stated on the back of the photograph.

Then I found an obituary for their daughter Aloe whose birth was registered in 1866 although her obituary states she was born on the ship Aloe on it’s way to NZ – but that doesn’t gell with the other sentence on the back of the photograph ‘also a child born on the ship ‘Aloe’ died later in infancy’ – Aloe didn’t die until 1931 aged 65.

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So either I’ve gone wrong somewhere along the line or else there was another voyage of the Aloe to NZ in 1866, so far I’ve had no luck in finding it.

That brings us to son Charles and another possible son also born in England. I did find one tree on ancestry.com that included George & Emma Reed that listed an additional two unknown children with the other five but so far have had no luck in contacting the owner of the tree. He listed the birth years for the two unknown children as 1858 and 1860 (how would you know what year they were born if you didn’t know their names?) and 1860 fits in with the age at death of Charles who died in 1954 aged 94 (too late to find an obituary in Papers Past which currently only goes to 1945).

Charles Reed married Frances Louisa Sprague on 20 Aug 1894 in Auckland, there are seven children listed for them in the NZ births:-

1895/16109   Reed    Kate                   Frances              Charles (died 1896)
1896/10889   Reed    Ivy                     Frances Louisa    Charles (died 1897)
1898/14580   Reed    Frances Daisy    Frances Louisa    Charles
1899/15287   Reed    Herbert Charles Frances Louisa   Charles
1901/2354     Reed    Ernest George   Frances Louisa    Charles
1902/16384   Reed    Albert Edward  Frances               Charles
1907/10183   Reed    Frank                Frances Louisa    Charles

The names on the back of the photo are obviously their family nicknames:-

Back left: Herbert Charles (Charles), Frances Daisy (Daisy)
Front left: Ernest George (Eddie), Frank, Albert Edward (Bertie)

At first I had thought the birth on the Aloe (reverse of photo) referred to one of Charles’ children but realised later that is must have been one of his siblings. There doesn’t seem to be a Reed death after Jun 1863 that would correspond with a birth in 1863 listed in the NZ deaths so perhaps the person who had written that on the back of the photo was mistaken that he/she had died later. If daughter Aloe had been the one born on the ship then why was her birth not registered for another 3 years after the ship arrived. Then again we do have the two late birth registrations for brothers Henry & Benjamin.

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Frances Louisa Reed died on 26 Dec 1938 aged 68, she was living in Mt Eden, Auckland and her death notice lists her husband Charles and three of her children, Daisy, Ernest & Edward. Her other children had pre-deceased her – Charles Henry on 4 May 1925 aged 25 and Frank on 4 Jun 1930 aged 13.

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All in all there’s a few anomalies that can’t be explained without a lot more research, time will tell no doubt. Although the tree on ancestry that lists George & Emma mentions that George came from Berkshire I’ve found nothing to confirm this one way or the other. Also in that tree Emma’s maiden name is given as Carter, again I’ve found nothing to substantiate this. There are too many REEDs in the 1861 & earlier census to know for sure which one he might be, nothing found in Berkshire at all. I will continue with my search from time to time but in the meantime I’d be delighted to hear from anyone who is connected to anyone in this family.

References: Papers Past; NZBDM Online; ancestry.com.au; NZSG Magazine Oct2013 Page 221

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If anyone knows anything about or is connected to the REED family please do contact me, I would love to pass this photo onto a family member, even a distant one. Contact by email is preferable but if you are going to leave a comment please don’t forget to include your email address.

Dawn Scotting
pandora[at]kc.net.nz